Old School Music

dealing with punk rock, speed/thrash and other music styles of the 80ies and beyond, a webpage connected to Red, Black & Green

Saturday, October 03, 2009

Attention messires et gentes damoiselles, en ce 30 octobre si rien ne vient entraver la marche du temps et de l'histoire, Maggot Brain et LJDH vont échanger leurs rôles afin de célébrer pour l'une Assata Shakur, pour l'autre HALLOWEEN... que de belles choses vous attendent comme Possessed, Morbid Angel, Obituary, Insane Clown Posse, Brotha Lynch Hung, Geto Boyz, Misfits, Bauhaus, Cathedral, Black Sabbath, Cirith Ungol, Necrovore, Impaled Nazarene, Bérurier Noir, j'en passe et des meilleurs....Amenez citrouilles, sorcières, balais, masques, vampires, diablesses, prêtres vaudous, créez, quoi!!!!!!

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Tu te souviens peut-être d'un groupe qui se nomme HIRAX, et de son line up de 1985-86, Katon W De Pena (chant), Gary Monardo (basse), Johnny Tabares (batterie) et Scott Owens (guitares)..et bien on en a retrouvé un de plus, Scott Owens, qui a un groupe, SUBVERSION, depuis 2 décennies à peu près, hein, enfin lis l'interview et tu sauras ( c'est la suite d'un fragment paru un peu plus tôt dans le temps). Action!!

How did you meet the Hirax guys? Would you say you're the instigator of Hirax metamorphosis ( from power metal to thrash/ thrashcore)? If not, what happened then ?

Through a mutual friend I had known from Long Beach (California..well if people don't know they never heard "What's my name" by some dog called Snoop ,ndm) years earlier,he moved away to another town and I lost track of him. Well I had moved from Long Beach to a town called Cypress. One night i was out driving and partying with some of my new friends and we drove past a crowd of people and it was my old friend from Long Beach.So we stopped so I could see what he had been doing all those years.He told me he had been working with a band called Hirax and asked me if i still played guitar because they were looking for a guitarist to replace the one they had lost(Bob Savage)at that time he didn't want to go in the thrash direction.As far as being the instigator of the changing of Hirax's sound I think me and Johnny played a big part in that.I already had some songs like demons ( "Demons Evil Forces", ndm)and "Bombs Of Death" before I ever met them they still play that today that was my first song I wrote when I was 16 or 17.

What do you remember from the gigs back in the days ( 84-87)? When did you get the feeling that, according to you, the band was becoming more and more popular/huge?

The shows back then were fuckin crazy but fun.I loved playing with some of my favorite bands at that time like Slayer, Megadeth,Exodus, C.O.C.,D.R.I.,Sacrilege b.c.,Exciter etc...I knew things were changing or us getting bigger when we played with Venom and Exodus at the Santa Monica Civic Center in front of 5,000 + raging thrashing fans, that was a awesome night I will never forget.

What would you say about "Raging Violence" and " Hate, fear and power" recording sessions? Where did it happen? Do you have any special stories about that?

We did those sessions at Track Recording in hollywood, CA with Bill Metoyer at the helm.I remember just every thing being so cool and being blown away at the people that had recorded there before us.The Beach Boys gold records on the wall and oh yeah beeeeeeerrrrr.Another great time in my life.

Could you tell me where ( I mean which record shop) the picture at the back of "Hate Fear and power" was shot?

I think it was Wild Rags but not positive, lost a lot of brain cells since then. But I do remember a human skull that we signed while we were there as well as a lot of other bands he kept them in a glass case on display in the record store.Ours was going to sit next to Anthrax's and I saw that Scott Ian signed his with "NOT" at the end so I signed mine with the word "pot", true story (pour les novices, Anthrax est un groupe thrash, enfin pas selon le boss de Snakepit mag :-), de New York, et Scott, le guitariste légendaire, a pour surnom "Not"...et "pot" c'est l'herbe, la weed, la marijeanne, enfin tu vois, quoi...ndm)!!

As it's one of my faves, could you tell me who wrote "The Last War", and how ( I mean how came the inspiration for the music and the lyrics)?

Me and Gary wrote "Last War", I had most of it wrote before we started practicing for the songs on "Hate, Fear, and Power". Me and Gary would put our riffs together and get the drum parts down and Katon would make up lyrics so we could record them on a cassette recorder then he would take them home to write his actual lyrics it would never take him long."Last War" came about like all the others,fairly easy we knew what we wanted to play.

About the chemistry within Hirax, could it be said that the team Monardo/ Owens can be compared to Lennon/ Mc Cartney, Harris ( Steve)/ Murray( Dave) or Conrad Lant/ Jeff Dunn (Cronos/ Mantas) ?

(je ne pouvais pas prévoir la réponse à la question précédente, hein...ndm))I guess so, me and Gary just wrote good original songs together,pretty effortlessly. We always had some kind of idea for a song who knows what we would have come up with if we hadn't broken up.Hopefully we will write together again in the near future.And thanks for compairing us to such great artists that is a honor (de nada, ndm).

Let's talk about the first split, between June 86 and let's say Summer 87 you were the keeper of the Hirax House, how was it as the others went to Cold Blood or Phantasm? And how and why did everyone come back?

After Gary left me and Eric were not ready to give up yet so we got Sherman Jones from Insecticide to play bass and I sang we had a pretty awesome band with brand new songs. I would say 10 or 11 songs we were just about to put out but Hirax is all four of us me Gary and Johnny and Katon and time healed our wounds so we wanted to give it one more chance to work it out.Plus we were writing better then ever and finally getting along so we went for it again.

la suite un peu plus tard, pour voir si vous suivez...

Wednesday, July 22, 2009

Un peu d'actualité, voici une interview du groupe KAMAKAZE, de Philadelphie, qui a dans ses rangs un certain Carlos Kamakaze, qui fut remplaçant d'un certain CHIP WRECK au sein du groupe PURE HELL..vous ne savez pas qui est Pure Hell? Alors vous ne devez pas lire ce blog :-)...regardez les pages précédentes please

What happened with Pure Hell, I mean, you were supposed to go back with Stinker last year(and keep Kamakaze alive maybe...)?

Kamakaze is alive and well on several online radio stations worldwide. We recently completed several shows in the Philadelphia area. Now we are working on some new music in the studio. Stinker makes the final decisions with what goes on in Pure Hell. He felt that he wanted to go with as original as possible, being that I was after him(Chip) I wasnt chosen. We are still good friends and plan to work together real soon.

Your singer Black Diamond ( is it related to the KISS track?) belonged to Godsend, which was the embryo of Skidrow, that's what you say, is it the famous US heavy rock band featuring Sebastian Bach, or another one?

Blakk Diamond is how its spelled, no its not taken from Kiss. Finally, yes she was the singer of Godsend that later changed its name to Skid Row. She used to go to Toms River in New Jersey and reherse with Rachel Bolan and others.

How would you define your sound, besides the one a "godly wind" would do (just joking)?

I try to stay rock oriented as our music is progressive metal with punk-rock roots. I compose most of the music and Diamond puts her lyrics into it, but we as a whole are influenced by everything. As far as sound is concerned, Kinda Megadeth, slayer, some hair metal lol and the soul and power of a singer that sings like Tina Turner meets Chaka Khan screaming to heavy fast rock!


Do you intend to release something, an EP or a demo to or maybe an album, and if yes, self produced stuff or you are in touch with an record label?

We completed an extended demo because we wanted to show our talent is broader than most metal bands. As I said before, We are in the studio working on new music to add to the collection. We produce it ourselves and bring new ideas and arrangements to the table. I have come in contact with a few record labels but so far, most of them speak about a promise but seldom deliver.

How would you describe nowadays Philly rock & punk rock scene, if you think you fit in ( this scene)?

Its a prominent scene with a handful of bars and venues. Mostly punk kids and ol'skool metalheads, hipsters and more.


I suppose you heard about collectives/organisations like Black Rock Coalition, Afropunk thing, would you join?

Being that I was mentored by Pure Hell, I have always supported the AfroPunk/Black Roack Coalition I even know James Spooner the director of the Afropunk Documentary and felt that Pure Hell should be at the forefront because they were the FIRST to do it in history...EVER!


Imagine Axl Rose, Snoop Dogg, Gwen Stefani and Madonna ,by a way or another, got a tape featuring a bunch of your songs, and each one reaches you in order either to offer a support slot (for a tour) ,or a record deal, what do you do and who do you choose?

Wow what a question, I like all of the mentioned performers. I would take the time to build a rapport and see what each one had to offer for Kamakaze musicially. I guess from there, I would make an educated decision based on who is in our best interests.

What's the topic of "Salvation"?

End of the world, conspiracy theories, corruption in politics, nuclear war, book of revelation, fire and brimstone shit! Saving the world from itself, man is destroying the world


Something to add, plans for the future...

We added a rhythm guitarist to the band and have had a new bassist for a few months now. Our rhythm guitarists' name is Shawn Maniac and he is a 14 yr old prodigy that I have taken under my wing for the past 2 years now. He knows all the music and is gonna be an excellent musician one day. Our Bassist comes from a local band here in Philadelphia called Reality Stricken, his name is Josh and he is a great asset to this band with his musicianship, ideas and input. Visit us at Kamakaze WWW.MYSPACE.COM/KAMAKAZEBAND, We will be on facebook and twitter in a few weeks!

Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Interview with SCOTT OWENS ( Hirax, Subversion) another part of Hirax family tree

1)On your myspace page you wrote you created "Bombs Of death" with Gene Hoglan in 83, so it seems "Hirax family" is quite large ( Hirax, Subversion, Phantasm, Wargod, Dark Angel, Metallica ( because of Ron Mc Govney), Exodus ( because of Paul Baloff), Insecticide, Cold Blood, DRI) ?

yeah back then there was a pretty small amount of true metalheads so we all knew of each other in some way or another.i met gene in jr high school in long beach ca were we grew up and had seen him around for a long time and knew he played drums. so one day i deceided to see if he would throw a jam with me at my house i called him and we started to talk about music and he was telling me that we could jam but he did'nt play pussy metal so it would have to be heavy no bullshit and i had been trying a new style for me fast riffing and heavy slow parts mixed together so we fit right together at that time. and the rest is history.

2)Why do you think Phantasm or even Cold Blood are more famous ( or more advertised) than Subversion ?

in our area we were just as big as those bands but when it came to having backing and lots of friends in other places we just never pushed ourselfs that hard we just played our songs werever we could and wer'nt very good at promoting the band we did'nt have that type of backing.all my hirax contacts were all with katon he never really included me really i was the young imature one kind of the fourth wheel.



3) Let's talk about pre Hirax era: who or what did inspire you/influence you? What made you say one day "ok I will pick a guitar and start playing", then "ok now I will be a musician, that's what I want"?

well my sister had all the rock albums of the 70's and i just loved to sneak in and listin to them and she had a old electra guitar with a small amp and i would fool around with it commng up with my own sounds and trying to play with her old records while she was gone.one day she came home early and caught me in her room with the guitar in my hand and said for me to keep playing.she listened for a minute and said take the guitar for my own and helped me every step of the way of my career.

4) What were you listening back in the days ( I mean between 1980 and 1983, won't go too far in the past)?

in 1980 to 83 i was lisening to metal in 80 81 it was stuff like van halen scorpions iron maiden judas priest ozzy all the old standards.then in 83 i started getting turned on to bands like anvil venom slayer exciter the harder the better.

5)Were you aware ( ok I suppose you were born and raised in California) of the punk & hardcore scenes back then, acts like Crucifix, Adolescents, Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, Battalion Of Saints, Verbal Abuse, Wasted Youth, Suicidal Tendencies...

i was aware of the punk scene black flag,t.s.o.l., fear, dk ,but i was metal and at that time there was still a division i can remember some pretty good fights but i thought the music was raw and cool and new we just had'nt put the two together yet.

6) And what about the hard & heavy scene ( Van Halen, Cirith Ungol, Motley Crue...)? Or maybe you weren't interested in rock at all and Gene Hoglan convinced you...

I listened to all hard rock since the 70's bands like b.o.c.,sweet,led zeppelin,rush to the 80's and the beginning of metal saxon jp,maiden,ufo the harder the better i have always loved metal and alway's will till i die.

waiting for part 2....

Friday, July 11, 2008

Exposition RAD PARTY: bonne idée, surtout qu'elle serait itinérante..en tout cas le "pélerinage" m'aura permis de voir un client particulier à la gare, Mister JP Raffarin himself ( est-ce que le père Delevaque l'a croisé au vernissage, un mois plus tôt ?), bref première constatation, le centre ville est un peu élevé ( ou bien la gare est dans une cuvette, au choix)et la fameuse Médiathèque, faut la trouver (certes c'est plus facile que d'accéder au Chatodo blésois :-)), mais au final on atterrit à bon port ( normal quand on vient du Mothership). Au menu, des archives genre SANG & SUEUR ( ben oui, le reste à savoir les Rad Party, je les ai pratiquement tous) pour les vieux thrashers, des portraits souvent d'après photo, de musiciens qu'on ne retrouvera sûrement jamais au journal de France 2 ou France 3 ( quoi, je suis mauvaise langue? Vu la tronche des journalistes et ce que je sais de leur formation ou de ceux qui les approchent...), mais surtout (le résumé de)17 ans d'activisme au sein des scènes punk, hardcore, thrash, crust/grind, ska/rocksteady hexagonale et internationales...je suis sûr qu'il y aurait de quoi faire un dvd, après "Antifa" et "LAxagone", sur les fréquentations de Mr Delevaque, non ? je retiens aussi 2 chroniques d'albums, celle (négative) du premier album de NTM et celle(positive) du "Youth Are Getting Restless" d'un petit groupe de DC...Sorry for English reading people, I'm lazy today, anyway it's about a French punk/hardcore/ska fanzine called RAD PARTY which was started 17 years ago..get one and you will understand..ok something more, the creator of RP attended the first Cro Mags, Youth Of Today shows in France, started a record label, he's a drawer also, and a musician, made logos for several bands...

Saturday, May 17, 2008

Et oui, une interview du groupe heavy metal STONE VENGEANCE, en anglais please..ils viennent de San Francisco...lisez la suite

1) Did you hear about the Cleveland area band Black Death (Black people playing heavy metal and signed on Auburn records in the 80s?)

Yes, I saw the LP years ago at the legendary RECORD VAULT store, back in the early 80s when it came out. The friends of mine that owned the store played a song for me. That band did not impress any Metalheads in San Francisco at all, from what I remember. SAN FRANCISCO was way too hard-core for that band, they were considered to be a joke in this town. You had to come harder than that in FRISCO.

2) How come you're far less known (at least by me) than Hirax or Sound Barrier?

I think, those bands had more exposure to the masses than us, in that, they were both on Record labels, with worldwide distribution. We have always been independent and underground for 30 years now.

3) Could you relate Stone Vengeance story from 1978 (members, releases, whatever)?

Well, I started the band in 1977, but it was under a different name. So, I say we started in 1978, with the name change to STONE VENGEANCE. In the earliest days, we had five members. We were a four piece for a while, but I could not keep another guitar player that was serious enough to want to stay in the band. My Bass player ANTHONY STARKS, suggested that we continue as a 3 piece. It wasn't hard to convince me of that, as I was already entertaining the idea of being a 3 piece myself, at the time. Drummer DARREN TOMPKINS was hired by me in 1983, after four previous drummers. This band has had the same lineup since 1983. Our releases include; two full-length CDs "TO KILL EVIL" and "THE ANGEL", Doomed Planet Records "HERE LIES STONE VENGEANCE" collectors LP, Compilations (that I can think of right now) "Eastern front live at Ruthies Inn 1985" "U.S. speedcore invasion" released in Germany 1986, various demos, live bootlegs and more.

4) I suppose you were there when Bay Area Thrash wave started (acts like Death Angel, Exodus, Possessed, Mordred, even Anvil Chorus, Forbidden, Trauma (with Cliff Burton), Blind Illusion...venues like the Keystone, Ruthies's Inn...KUSF radio broadcast and so on), how was it ? Did you attend shows or even play with some of the acts quoted above?

Yes, we were here before the Thrash Metal wave started. We helped to build and support the scene here. Some of the bands we have played shows with include FANG, VERBAL ABUSE, MDC, RAVEN, DENNIS STRATTON (formerly with IRON MAIDEN), AL ATKINS (formerly with JUDAS PRIEST), ROB ROCK, ANVIL, POSSESSED, BLUE CHEER, SLAYER, TESTAMENT, EXODUS, DEATH, SUICIDAL TENDENCIES, TROUBLE, LIZZY BORDEN, ICE-T & BODYCOUNT, VICIOUS RUMORS, DEATH ANGEL, GBH, DRI, HIRAX, to LAAZ ROCKIT and FORBIDDEN! Plus many more! Cliff Burton of Metallica was a fan of our music also. I loved that guy, he was very cool and down to earth, as were all the guys in METALLICA when I met them in 1983. KUSF's RON QUINTANA was the very first DJ brave enough to play us on the radio back then. I LOVE THAT GUY!

5) There also was a strong punk/hardcore scene ( Dead Kennedys, Crucifix, former Texas bands MDC, DRI, Verbal Abuse, and more punk oriented The Avengers, The Dils...)did you get in touch with them?

Yes, we have played with many great Punk bands. We have always been respected by the hard-core Punk bands, even more so, than a lot of the other Metal bands from here. The Punk bands would say to me "You guys are a more REAL Rock & Roll band!" We have always had a cross mix of Metal and Punk fans since the very start.

6) San Francisco is also "Dirty Harry"'s town ( at least that's what I perceive from the 2 first movies), what do you think about the character, and Clint Eastwood' career as actor and movie maker?

I like those movies, but I don't know much about the man.

7) How many Black rock acts in San Francisco could you quote besides you?

The only one that comes to mind in the Bay Area, is a group called A BAND CALLED PAIN. They seem to me, to be serious about the music.

8) Where does the name "Stone Vengeance" come from? How did you choose it?

It took a lot of time and research to chose the right name that I wanted for the band. It means "the Despised, Outcast, Unloved, the Stone that the builders rejected (the builders represent the other civilized nations of the earth). This is indeed a fitting name for us and I might add, that we have lived up to it! This band has survived by the force of my will.

9) Where can people find your records or merchandise related to SV? They can buy our CDs at CDBABY. COM or visit the band at STONEVENGEANCE. COM

10) Does Stone Vengeance do DIY, or did you get signed on indie labels, or did you "fly" on a major record label ( like Sound Barrier)?

We are a DIY band. True Metal Mavericks, OUTLAWS! I learned, a long time ago, that a label would not sign a band like this without us having to compromise. Let me be honest, "STONE VENGEANCE are not some fucking uncle toms!" That has a lot to do with us being independent. I won't kiss ass to reach my goals, we have been at this for a long time. I will say this, also, we are not a band for everyone. I know that a lot of Black people claim to like Metal, but won't get behind us. I think about this and say to myself "if great bands like METALLICA, RAVEN, EXODUS, SUICIDAL TENDENCIES, MOTORHEAD, GBH, and more, have shown respect for our music, and we have been representing as the "longest existing Black metal band" where is the support from these so called "Black" Metalheads? i.e.- BLACK ROCK COALITION?

11) North California to me, is BPP, Mobb sound ( E 40 &Sickwidit records), Mac Dre, Spice 1, Digital Underground, Paris, The Coup, Luniz...does the Bay Area still "feel the (P)funk"?

Yes, we still feel it. PARIS and the COUP are favorites of mine. I've met BOOTS he's cool! That reminds me check out a very talented friend of mine from SAN FRANCISCO, his name is MARTIN LUTHER of the MARTIN LUTHER EXPERIENCE! Yeah, he is the real deal!

12) If I had to spend some time there (in North California) what would you advise me about music related magazines, fanzines, radio stations or broadcasts, TV programs dealing with San Francisco musical scenes?

KUSF RADIO, PIRATE CAT RADIO, REALITY CHECK TV!

13) Did you play outside North California, and even overseas?

YES, and we are right now planning to perform in CANADA, GERMANY, JAPAN, BRAZIL and more.

14)You started in 1978, like Bad Brains, what made you choose heavy metal, and not punk rock, or reggae/ska, or funk or even new wave?

I started a Rock band and being fascinated by the sound of Rock guitar, it was just natural for me, because at the time I preferred the way Rock and Metal used the guitar. It was just much more interesting and creative to me.

15) According to you did (or do) Living Colour and Black Rock Coalition have the means to be influent/influential in rock business?

I don't know what they are doing these days, but let me say this, in the 1980s I called GREG TATE on the East coast, him being a founder of the Black Rock Coalition along with Living Colour's VERNON REID. I was following up on the cassette I had sent to him of our music. He said "man, this is some APOCALYPTIC music you got here brother!" I asked him what type of services he could help us with, and he said "well, I can give you the names of all the people that said NO to us already! A while later, I sent a cassette tape to the BRC, asking about membership. The response letter I received said "I would have to send in $50 and then wait to see if their board would approve of us. Ain't that a Bitch? I'm sitting there looking at their roster of groups and the only "black" group that I saw at that time was LIVING COLOUR. The rest of the groups were mixed, both Black and White members. How would you feel? Here I am, my band older than the BRC itself, fighting an uphill battle and representing longer than any of the members in the BRC, my band IS Black and we can't get any recognition or love? I said FUCK IT! I think they can be more influential, but they can't act like they are asking permission to Rock from anybody. Black people have paid there dues a long time ago to ROCK & ROLL! I am PROUD of who and what I am! Being 45 years old, you can imagine that I have very little tolerance for Weak Hearted, Scared to Death, UNCLE TOM ASS NEGROES!

16) Plans for the present and the future/ something to add....

We are planning a new album, and to perform for as many of our fans worldwide, (some who have been waiting for over 20 years to see us)as possible, before we retire. You keep up the good work man, MICHAEL COFFEY. WWW. STONEVENGEANCE. COM

et en plus une itw en vidéo ( pas de moi, je vous rassure !!!) Interview vidéo Stone Vengeance

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Saturday, July 21, 2007

Ok next thing from Philly might be the band Sudden Impact ( I mean a feature/ itw) but I must tell you about the 4th Free Edge Fest who happened almost 2 months ago ( yes it's late, sorry for PETA but you know, there are only 24 hours in a day, and less for lazy people like me :-) )Free Edge ok here is the "official website" if you want more..So it was June 1st and 2nd , 2007, from let's say 5pm to 2am first day, and 2pm till dunno the second day ( because I wasn't there). People from The Rudes were dealing with security, the venue was Salle Yves Renault at Chambray les Tours, and there I met former Campus guys like Greg ( Les Plaisirs Du Core for those who remember), and Radio Beton staff ( Arnaud " Bring The Noise" amidst them). You want more "Gala Voici" Tours(and around) rock activists ? No , nobody was pictured on a beach in Corse..but people behind Free Edge are former No Time To Lose & Riot State Killers musicians ( and current Nine Eleven, for Mr Richard)or "L'Oreille" journalists ( like Theo). Ok let's start the review, many interesting merchandising/militancy/ alternative info stands, like Hardcore District ( Tours/ clermont ferrand/ Toulouse), Exutoire records ( near Bordeaux, they also achieve the fanzine Sedition),the guy from Hey You, Rodolphe, PETA, Born From Pain, Empty Vision/ Fields Of Hope recs , Vitamin X, Bone Brigades recs...two bands were replaced, don't remember who but Daily Mind Distortion and ISP played. DMD started the festival, at the beginning there was like 40-50 people there, interesting set, I would say better than what they did at Lilo in February ( or I felt better this day), kind of punk garage'n'roll with Mr Stouf looking like Henry Rollins in 81, they ended with Riot State killers hymn "RSK". Next was Aussitot Mort, some "modern" emocore for me, not my cup of tea...FTX was , the singer always close to Ray Beez ( clothes and attitude), but this time it was too NYHC for me, less "groovy" or catchy. With ISP,went the show on, the singer running out of stage and singing in the audience a lot of time, more "melodic" hardcore but not Bad Religion/ No FX stuff, unfortunately they took a garage/punk turn for the 2nd part of their set. Then come Year Of No Light, a surprise, their sound is close to Isis or Unsane post hardcore, (funeral) doom and primal black metal ( Darkthrone/B***um/Emperor early stuff). No singing but screaming and yelling ( and the guy also plays keyboards), very interesting but is it really adequate in a hardcore Fest ? it's up to people to ask and think...Nasty coming next was straight modern hardcore (beatdown hardcore), death metal meets NYHC, tough guys gathering and KDS movements, they got an encore and obviously had fans. Empty Vision from Hannover came after ( I must say that everyone was cool there, you could talk and interview everybody on the spot, so I discussed with Empty Vision, Born From Pain, Vitamin X, PETA people, Hardcore District), quieter for your ears, for me a mix of emocore and NYHC, a young crew who ended their set with a SOIA cover, "Scratch the Surface" (and they managed to do, people were down with them, at least the first row). then came my fave for the day, VITAMIN X, old school hardcore ( some let's say "assholes" but after all they can like whichever hardcore style they want :-) wanted to oust them and get Born From Pain), really funny on stage, and the next level if compared with the bands who performed before, you got cirlce pits, brave heart, stage diving, whatever, intense hardcore show, they ended their sets with " See Thru Their lies" and also played " Minor Threat" by you know who ( Yohan DFI should have jumped on stage to sing with them :-) ), the singer was beneath a crew of stage divers and still singing, really great ( ok for Michel Drucker it was awful :-) ). Born From Pain was a return to brutal hardcore ( like Nasty), if you like Merauder, it's for you...and Burning Heads was the "cool it down"/ " let's chill" moment with several reggae punk cuts, like " Evolution", melodic hardcore like "STFU", "Freedom", even some dub ( Bad Brains or HR influence ? just joking !)...at the end they played " Endless Summer" ( maybe a new cut, still reggae punk stuff) and the famous "No Way" ( by Adolescents). And that was it for me...of course the 40 people from the beginning turned to some hundreds at the end, but the venue wasn't sold out. anyway, great event!!